even cnn has a plus 11 democratic poll that is dead even but you look at independents you have romney in the 50s and obama in the 30s. let me show you something from madison, wisconsin. back to 2004, bruce springsteen out there, 80,000 people. barack obama this year, 12,000 or 18,000. you see this all over. you don't see those crowds. you don't see that enthusiasm that obama had i think in large part because he hasn't been successful. and i think that hope and change, enthusiasm has kind of washed away a little bit. >> either bruce springsteen has lost a lot of fans or the thrill is fading for barack obama. >> one or the other. >> and the truth of the matter is obama 2008, the reason why he did so well is because he promised to elevate the country, unite us, bring us together. he said very clearly you may not agree with me on everything but i'll bring us to go. that barack obama is long gone. what you have now is a divider, a person who deliberately pits americans against each other, has run a very negative campaign from start to finish. in fact, has had very little to talk about in t